A Datre Special Message.

JOHN: We have gotten a number of communications from individuals regarding some new books that are on the market and suggesting that the material inside of the books was of value. Up to this point we did not know what was contained in the books, but the title did NOT seem to be of interest. However we received a communication today that told us some of the content of the books and at this time Datre would like to make some comments regarding these publications.

I'll read some of the comments about the contents of these books; "You may find the Conversations with God books 1 and 2 to be of interest"
"They are the first "mass media" books that put "creator Gods" in context i.e. "as you are My body, I am the body of another" was a fascinating comment from a source speaking as "the God who created you, the God of Jesus, and Abraham, Moses and John".

"If nothing else, the re-statement of "The Ten Commandments" as this source claims they were intended is worth the $15 for book 1 - and they/he has real interesting sections on sex, money and world government in book 2."

"If you haven't read them, it may be worth the while to skim over them and see if they grab you - I feel they will be an "expanding" influence on the masses... and maybe a useful tool in pursuit of your mission..."

DATRE: Now, what we would like to comment on is the first comment that was made about this creator being the creator of Abraham and all the rest of them that I don't remember all the names of. What you have to realize is that from our standpoint we are speaking from the UNIVERSE. Now, first of all, this is in no way a derogatory statement. Your belief and what you wish to believe is entirely up to each and every individual upon this planet, every other planet, every other UNIVERSE, everything. As we have said before YOU ARE ALONE. Your thoughts are yours alone; they are no one else's thoughts. Your actions are 'your' actions; they are no one else's actions. So, from that standpoint we will address the subjects within these books.

Number one, from a UNIVERSAL standpoint, GOD ONLY EXISTS ON YOUR PLANET IN YOUR BUBBLE. That is the only place within this UNIVERSE that, what you call GOD, exists. Now, can you see where there is a difference in the teachings?

We do not like to teach about sex. We do not like to teach about money. We do not like to teach about politics. When we do so, what we're trying to do is make you 'aware' of the reality in which you are existing at the present time. You are here in a physical construct to learn this particular planetary existence. You came into physicality to learn what this was all about. That was to learn about WHAT was existing upon your planet, what is existing as far as individuals upon your planet are concerned, the creatures upon your planet, everything about this planet - this is your 'present' reality.

Now, if your 'present' reality includes a belief in a 'planetary god' that is fine, that is 'mass consciousness' and there is nothing wrong with that in any way, shape or form. But you must realize that what we are talking about is being AWARE of what is happening with 'mass consciousness'. What the beliefs are in 'mass consciousness'. But also, realize that beyond THIS BUBBLE of planetary existence other things, other realities exist. Now, those that we are speaking to that seem to be contacting us more and more all the time, are those that are beginning to get, what you would call in your language, great breakthroughs in understanding. Things are happening to these people. They're beginning to look at things differently than they ever have in their physical existence at this time. They're 'fascinated' by what IS. But, until you reach the 'breakthrough' point it is virtually impossible to explain to another individual what has happened.

We consistently get letters (e-mail) that John reads to me, to us, that people write and say, 'I know I can tell you this because you will understand'. This is true. This is why we give out this information because we DO understand, because we have watched what has happened with John and Aona and other individuals that are going through 'dramatic' changes. The individuals that are going through these 'dramatic' changes, even if they're just on the fringe of beginning to 'see' things a little differently, once that happens, there will be more. That's because the minute it is seen as a 'breakthrough' and the comment is, 'oh, it can happen to me', that is 'acceptance' of information of that type. Once that type of information is 'accepted' that opens the gates for more things to happen.

Now, what we're saying is, these are the individuals that are going to be going someplace else. If you are in 'mass consciousness' to the point that this is what you see, this is 'your' reality, all of these 'gods' that do all of these things, if this is your belief and this is your reality that is fine. Because evolution is, as we've said before, an individualistic thing. Just because your neighbor has something that happens to them that sounds whizzy bang wow, that does not mean that the neighbor is going to be going off into what, you call, 'never, never land which is far better than Earth existence'.

There are individuals living upon the planet that have never heard of any of this information, be it Datre, be it any of the psychic, what you call, information. They're not familiar with that, that has not been their life in any way, shape or form. And yet they are coming in contact with John and Aona, in stores and in conversations they will 'know' that John and Aona are open individuals and they will begin to spill forth what has been happening to them. 'What is happening? Am I going crazy? Is this alright?' They don't know what's happening to them. But, they're beginning to make 'breakthroughs'. At that point, depending upon what city John and Aona are in, they will give them books to read, to help them understand and to know, NO you're not going crazy. You're beginning to open up the centers within your physical construct to be able to experience these things.

A reality is multi, multi, multi, multi facetted. We have explained that before. It does not matter where you are at the present time. But, for the 'god' concept to be of any interest to John and Aona, NO, because they 'know' that is in itself, for them, individually, a limitation. Now, if it is 'not' a limitation for other individuals, that is fine. If there is information in those book that is interesting and informative to individuals, that's fine. It's taking you one step further, probably, than you would have been before. But, when you begin to understand the difference between 'planetary existence' and UNIVERSAL 'existence' there is... you can't compare them because there is NO comparison.

Anyone that 'knows' and has a feeling within their physical construct, because that's where you work from, its what we call a 'gut' feeling, that UNIVERSAL information is an, 'AHA, this feels good'. Then that's what these individuals seek. Now, if there is an expansion of the 'god' concept that feels good and that's an AHA for someone else, other individuals, that is fine for them. But, for those that are going to make greater steps and are going to go out into the UNIVERSE into an 'entirely' different existence, the 'god' concept, the 'consciousness' and everything else connected with this planet is NOT usable in another existence. As we have said before, 'mass consciousness' is going to make changes when they leave this planet and go into another planetary existence. But, it is not going to be that far removed from what is being experienced at the present time.

So, we have spoken before of that, which we call, the 'wispy' existence. The UNIVERSAL information is very familiar and looked forward to by those individuals that are going to the 'wispy' existence. Because that's where they are already beginning to feel comfortable. You have individuals, on this planet, right now, that are, what you would say, 'walking two worlds'. They are walking in the HOLOGRAM on this planet in physicality. But, they are also touching in to another realm that is totally, entirely different. They cannot stay there, they know they cannot stay there and they have no remembrance of anything that they have experienced when they come back into the physical construct. But, they 'know' that they have been someplace entirely different. When you 'know' where you're going you decide if that's what you want to do. There are individuals that touch into another reality and it 'scares' them and they come back into physicality and they will NOT leave physicality, because they 'fear' anything that is not in a physical existence. This is fine, because as said before, your evolution is YOURS, individually. YOU DON'T GO IN A GROUP, YOU GO ALONE.

If Aona goes one place and John goes another place, what difference does it make? In physicality, it is a prefect match. But, John does not know what is in Aona's head, shall we say, and visa versa. So they don't even 'know' if they will go to the same place and it doesn't matter, because evolution is that 'excitement' of something NEW and DIFFERENT.

Now, perhaps this dissertation will help you to better understand the difference between what is happening on your bookshelves and what is happening to the information that we are giving you. Now, just because it happens to be Datre, that does not mean that everything else you read and everything else you hear, and everything else is no good - we're NOT saying that in any way, shape or form. There can be others that will be bringing through UNIVERSAL information. But, when you get to the point that you have that understanding of UNIVERSAL information, you will 'know' immediately upon reading or hearing information where it comes from.

You know, its very easy to 'claim' all of these things and there's nothing wrong with that because that is the 'feeling' of the individual in physicality that feels where that the information that they're getting is coming from. They can say, 'we're getting UNIVERSAL information' and that is fine. But, remember one thing, be discerning. Does it 'ring' like UNIVERSAL information? Does it have the 'feeling' of UNIVERSAL information?

You see, that was the 'stumbling block' of the SETH material, was that people READ the SETH material, but because of its 'complexity' there were NOT that many people that understood what was 'between the lines' of the SETH books. As you speak to individuals who know the SETH material, they can quote it from beginning to end. They can tell you what book, what paragraph, what page things are on. But, do they have the grasp of what is really there? It is far 'deeper' than what is on the written page. So it is true of everything. There are individuals that we are contacting on the net today that are going back, after many years of not having read that material and saying, 'I never read the book before'. No, because the book has symbols. You are the translator of the symbols and you translate the symbols as you see them at the present time today. You translated them, as the symbols were the last time you read them. You see the subtleties are always there in everything.

Now, John has recently suggested, because of the number of people that are having GRAND, GRAND experiences, that the Richard Bach books might be of value. The reason that that information was given is because, we too figured from a physical standpoint that there are those that are having experiences that will be able to 'relate' to another physical individual that has had and is having fantastic physical experiences. Now, the reason for suggesting the Bach books is it is another, what you call, human experience. It's a human telling you, 'this is what I have done'.

It would, for example, be pointless for either John or Aona to write a book about their experiences. Many have suggested that the Datre material be put in book form. In one of the locations they lived in, people began to come to their place to talk to them. This very often happens but this particular time someone made the comment, "it looks like what you are looking for is a group of followers". This is the one thing that Aona has consistently avoided. That is why the 'net' is so good for her. She keeps her anonymity and can live a physical existence because THAT is what she came here to do. It was only our asking that she bring through this information, that she agreed to do so. She has no pressure to give classes, lectures, etc. that many feel the need to do for money. They have supported themselves by working in the work-a-day world. There is no ego, no mission; no need to satisfy anyone and that allows them the freedom to LIVE.

So, perhaps we've explained UNIVERSALITY and 'god' concepts. It does not matter, as we've said before, whatever makes you comfortable. It is YOUR evolution and as told to one, not too long ago when we did a question and answer, 'How far can I go?' You can go as far as you want to go, it is up to you, it is up to you. We have nothing to do with it. We in the UNIVERSE have absolutely 'nothing' to do with your 'individual' evolution, with ONE exception and that is to provide you with information that may be helpful to you in your GRAND experience of 'knowing' WHO you are and the LIMITLESSNESS available to you.

We thank you, we are Datre.